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  • 2026-09-11 Haas VF-1
    ~$9,900 (oldest 1991–2003) to ~$38,500 (2009–2017) used; a 2016 unit listed $34,900. Biggest cost risk is the spindle: a VF-series rebuild runs $4,800–$7,200, a replacement spindle $16,000–$24,000 before install. Check runout and coolant-seal condition before buying.
  • 2026-09-11 Haas TM-1
    ~$10,500 (2001) to ~$32,900 (2019 TM-1P). A lower-duty-cycle toolroom mill; the common gotcha is the tool-release air system (a clogging Humphrey valve), plus family-level Haas spindle wear. Test tool release and listen at high RPM.
  • 2026-09-11 Haas SL-20
    ~$16,900 to ~$41,000 used. Turning-center failure modes carry over from the ST lineage: spindle bearing, hydraulic-chuck/foot-pedal clamp faults, tailstock sticking, and turret/way-cover wear. Test clamping, tailstock travel and turret indexing.
  • 2026-09-11 Haas VF-6
    ~$24,950 (1996) to ~$68,500 (2010); newer SS/CAT-50 units list higher (contact-for-price). Same VF-series spindle economics ($4,800–$7,200 rebuild vs $16,000–$24,000 replace, CAT-50 at the top), plus large-table way-cover wear. Check spindle and TSC rotary-union seal.
  • 2026-09-11 Haas EC-400
    ~$37,800 to ~$99,500 used. Spindle economics match the VF-series ($4,800–$7,200 rebuild vs $16,000–$24,000 replace); the 1,000 PSI through-spindle coolant makes the rotary-union seal a scheduled wear item and a real bearing-killer. Also inspect the pallet changer and 4th-axis for backlash.
  • 2026-09-11 DMG Mori DMU 50
    ~$89,900 to ~$177,800 used — the wide spread reflects control (Siemens vs Heidenhain), spindle (10k vs 18k rpm) and ATC size. High-rpm spindle and TSC seal are the big cost risks; on a 5-axis, the trunnion/rotary table backlash is the defining used-machine inspection. Confirm control type and 5-axis accuracy.
  • 2026-09-07 Makino A51
    Makino A51 (Horizontal machining center): real dealer prices.
  • 2026-09-07 Doosan PUMA 240B
    Doosan PUMA 240B (CNC lathe): real dealer prices.
  • 2026-09-07 Citizen Cincom K16
    Citizen Cincom K16 (Swiss-type lathe): real dealer prices.
  • 2026-09-07 DMG Mori NLX 3000/1250
    DMG Mori NLX 3000/1250 (CNC turning center): real dealer prices.
  • 2026-09-06 The Guarding Question: What Federal Law Says About the Used CNC You Are Buying
    Caught-in-machinery is America's #1 severe-injury cause, ahead of falls, and OSHA logged 18,559 amputation reports in seven years. The machine-guarding law, verbatim, and why a bypassed door interlock makes a used machine a violation on delivery.
  • 2026-09-05 Mazak VCN-530C
    Used Mazak VCN-530C: $89,900–$148,000 observed used across 3 listings. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-05 Okuma GENOS M560-V
    Used Okuma GENOS M560-V: $54,900–$114,900 observed used across 4 listings. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-05 DMG Mori NHX 4000
    Used DMG Mori NHX 4000: $79,900–$154,900 observed used across 4 listings. The documented cost risk to price in: Pallet pool hydraulics. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-05 Hurco VM10i
    Used Hurco VM10i: $34,500–$69,500 observed used across 3 listings. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-05 Tormach PCNC 1100
    Used Tormach PCNC 1100: $7,000–$12,000 observed used across 7 listings. The documented cost risk to price in: Z-axis stepper driver, Spindle bearings. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-05 Haas ST-10 vs ST-20: The Turret Failure Is Size-Specific, the Rest Is Not
    Both lathes share the same bed-twist and backing-plate wear patterns. Only the ST-20 has a documented turret crash failure mode, which is worth knowing before you buy one.
  • 2026-09-02 Haas ST-10
    $39,000–$50,000 observed used. Biggest documented cost risk: Tailstock sticking is a documented, named failure mode on th. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-02 Haas ST-20
    $59,000–$70,000 observed used. Biggest documented cost risk: Broken/trashed backing plates on both chucks by the time of. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-01 DMG MORI NLX 2500
    Used DMG MORI NLX 2500: $24,999–$209,500 observed used across 4 listings. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-01 Mori Seiki NL2500
    Used Mori Seiki NL2500: $39,500–$89,100 observed used across 5 listings. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-09-01 Fadal VMC 4020
    Used Fadal VMC 4020: $4,500–$22,500 observed used across 24 listings. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-08-22 Haas Mini Mill
    Used Haas Mini Mill: $14,950–$29,950 observed used across 10 listings. The documented cost risk to price in: X-axis cable. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-08-22 Buying CNC at Auction: Rigging, Risk, and Reserve Math
    Why the "original value" printed on an auction listing is not a real number, how to build a bid ceiling from actual market bands, and the costs that never appear in the listing.
  • 2026-08-22 Financing Used Iron: What the Lender Is Actually Afraid Of
    Why a lender looks at a used mill differently than a truck, what to bring to the conversation, and the repair exposure you should price before you sign anything.
  • 2026-08-22 The Used CNC Inspection: Ways, Spindle, Turret, Control
    A systematic approach to inspecting a used mill or lathe before money changes hands. Power-on hours, spindle sound, taper runout, and what each sign actually costs you.
  • 2026-08-22 A First CNC for a Small Shop: Used Market Realities
    Choosing between a Mini Mill and a VF-2, what each one actually costs by model year, and why the cheapest machine on the list is frequently the expensive one.
  • 2026-08-22 What Rigging and Moving a VMC Actually Costs
    Why nobody can quote you a rigging price from an article, what actually drives the number, and how to get three real quotes that you can compare against the machine price.
  • 2026-08-21 Buying a Used Haas VF: Value by Year, Spindle Economics, and What the Hour Meter Hides
    Real market ranges by model year, the $5k-vs-$20k spindle decision, and why a 12,000-hour machine can beat a 5,000-hour one.
  • 2026-08-21 Haas Control Generations: What Year Buys You
    The model year does not buy you the control features sellers talk about. It buys you spindle-repair headroom. What the observed VF-2 price bands show, what they do not, and the repair math that should set your budget.
  • 2026-08-21 Mini Mill vs VF-2: When Small Is the Smart Buy
    The Mini Mill is not the cheap machine. It is roughly twice the price of a vintage VF-2 for a quarter of the working cube. The observed price bands, the envelope gap, and the spindle exposure nobody prices for you.
  • 2026-08-21 Probing and 4th Axis: Which Options Hold Value Used
    There is no public Haas option price list, so nobody can honestly tell you what a probe is worth. Here is how to price an option off the year bands instead, and what to inspect before you pay a premium.
  • 2026-08-21 Used Haas Lathes: ST-10 vs ST-20 Economics
    Three quarters of an inch of bar capacity decides this purchase, not price. The observed year bands, the point where they overlap exactly, and the rebuild costs nobody has published for these machines.
  • 2026-08-21 VF-2 vs VF-3 vs VF-4: Sizing a Used Haas Mill
    Bigger iron does not cost more money. The observed price bands by model year, why the submodel suffix moves the price more than the model number, and the spindle math that decides all three.
  • 2026-08-21 Coolant, Chips, and the Air Line That Actually Kills Spindles
    Everyone blames coolant for spindle failure. On a Haas VF, the documented root cause was water in the shop air supply. Here is what to check and why.
  • 2026-08-21 Power-On vs Spindle Hours: Reading CNC Meters Honestly
    Two clocks, two different stories. Why usage intensity beats raw hours, and what the hour meter physically cannot tell you about the inside of a spindle.
  • 2026-08-21 Spindle Rebuild vs Replace: The $5k-vs-$20k Decision
    Rebuild runs $4,800 to $7,200. Replacement runs $16,000 to $24,000. Which one is right depends on the machine's resale value, not on how bad the noise sounds.
  • 2026-08-21 Lathe or Mill First? Work Backward From the Jobs
    Sticker price barely separates them. What separates them is which jobs you can bid, and how much repair evidence exists when something breaks.
  • 2026-08-21 Haas Parts Have No Public Prices. Here Is How to Budget Anyway
    parts.haascnc.com routes you to a dealer, not a catalog. That is a verified finding, not an oversight, and it changes how you plan the cost of owning one.
  • 2026-08-19 Haas VF-2
    $8,900–$126,500 observed used. Biggest documented cost risk: Spindle bearing failure on the 12,000 rpm VF. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-08-19 Haas VF-3
    $12,000–$99,900 observed used. Biggest documented cost risk: Spindle rebuild. Buy only after inspection.
  • 2026-08-19 Haas VF-4
    $11,999–$79,500 observed used. Biggest documented cost risk: Spindle bearing failure is the headline wear item across the. Buy only after inspection.